Vocal Masterclass Discussion For The American Idol Seasion 10 Top 24 Results Show


I am adding this blog topic while I have the opportunity to access a wireless connection.

I thought the Top 24 guys and gals were terrific and I fear that there will be some talented broken hearts on that stage once the results are announced.

However, it appears that our Top 12 (or 13) will be excellent this season. The diversity in the talent pool is tremendous! Something for everyone!

Enjoy the show!! It’s going to be a nail-biter!

About Masterclass Lady

Rosanne (Giallonardo) Simunovic began her musical career in Timmins, Ontario. She studied piano with Anne Pizzale and later, at an advanced level, with Soeur Anita Vaugeois (Sister Cecile of Les Soeurs De L’Assomption in Timmins). Her vocal and accompaniment skills were nurtured by her aunt, the late Dorothea Mascioli. When Rosanne graduated from O’Gorman High School, she moved on to the University of Toronto where she continued her piano and vocal studies while attaining a Bachelor of Arts Degree. She was hired as a piano accompanist for several musical companies, most notably, the National Ballet Of Canada. She presently holds an A.R.C.T. Teacher’s Diploma in Voice from the Royal Conservatory of Music in Toronto. Rosanne has studied choral conducting with numerous well known Canadian Conductors, including Wayne Riddell of Montreal, Quebec and the internationally renowned Dr. Elmer Iseler. She has been a founding member of numerous community-based arts organizations: the Timmins Arts Council, later known as Arts & Culture Timmins, the Timmins Symphony Orchestra, and, the Timmins Youth Singers…as well as the TYS Alumnus choir, the Timmins Concert Singers. In 1987, she was also selected to be the conductor of the Timmins Board Of Education Choir, comprised of talented students from Grades 5 to 8. In 1988, she was elected to the Board Of Directors of the Ontario Choral Federation (now known as Choirs Ontario), where she served as Chair of the Festivals Committee for six consecutive seasons. In 1996, in honour of the Ontario Choral Federation’s 25th Anniversary, Rosanne was selected as one of 25 recipients of the OCF’s Distinguished Service Award for outstanding contribution to the choral art. The ceremony was presided by Lieutenant Governor, Hal Jackman. In November 1997, Rosanne Simunovic was selected by the Rotary Club Of Timmins to receive the prestigious Paul Harris Award for her years of dedication to the artistic development of young musical talent in Timmins. In August of 2002, Rosanne Simunovic was selected by the Board Of Directors of Choirs Ontario to serve as Conductor of both the Provincial Junior and Teen Choir Camps, now renamed in honour of the Camp Benefactors, Don and Lillian Wright. In November 2002, Rosanne was the one of the recipients of the Commemorative Medal for the Golden Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II, honouring her work in the development of the arts in Timmins. Under Rosanne Simunovic’s direction, the Timmins Youth Singers and the Timmins Concert Singers have been featured in numerous choral festivals and performing opportunities outside of Timmins. In 1985, they were selected to partici

62 Responses to “Vocal Masterclass Discussion For The American Idol Seasion 10 Top 24 Results Show”

  1. Especially if the young man with that natural elegance, grace, bearing and presence–that puts him KILOMETERS above the others, is sent home tomorrow.

    Thouh I hear that the 14 cut will return next week for the WC challenge.

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  2. I guess if I had to pick my “dream team”, it would be: I will go girl- boy to keep it fair!!!

    1. Scotty
    2. Thia
    3. Paul
    4. Karen
    5. Tim
    6. Kendra
    7. Robbie
    8. Pia
    9. Casey
    10. Lauren T.
    11. James
    12. Haley
    13. Jacob (This cause MCL has 13!!!) Will there be 13?

    James,

    I hadn’t heard that there will be a wild card show! Awesome, at least we would get a chance to vote back in our favorites!

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  3. Gosh though; if there isn’t a spot for # 13, who would I replace??? 😦

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  4. Jacob, James, and Pia are phenomenal singers. I’m hoping that two of them will be in the finale.

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  5. Brian, I think all three will be in the TOP 10. Vonnie, I don’t think we get to vote for the Wild Card Round next week. I think the remaining contestants will sing, and then the judges will tell who the extra 2/3 contestants will be.

    I am just guessing here in no particular order::

    1. Paul McDonald

    2. Casey Abrams

    3. James Urban

    4. Scotty McCreery

    5. Jacob Lusk

    6. W/C Stefano Langone or Brett Loewenstern

    7. Karen Rodriguez

    8. Naima Adedapo

    9. Thia Megia

    10. Lauren T.

    11. Pia Toscano

    12. W/C Lauren A.

    I know the judges have been pushing for Lauren A., so she’ll probably be in tonight.
    I need to warm up to her a bit.

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  6. Hi Brian C…Welcome! 🙂

    Grammi Kari,

    Bummer! I was hoping that we would get to vote for the wild cards! They should just go ahead and pick them tonight then, huh?

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  7. Yay, congratulations, Pia! What a classy woman and a stunning singer. Rooting for her among others. 😀

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  8. Wait, what?! They are cutting from 24 to 10? yikes… I thought we were starting the one-off for the next upteenths week after week. OUCH!

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  9. I just logged on – still traveling. Will it ever end? LOL Anyway, this is a very intense show tonight and I hope beyond hope that Stefano moves forward to the Top whatever! He is incredibly gifted and his Wild Card performance just now was so moving, so passionate and just plain awesome.

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  10. The top 10 results actually make sense. I wish there were more spots, but for the most part, the contestants who did not make it either suffered from lack of screen time (Kendra Chantelle, Lauren Turner) and/or performances that were not memorable or did not showcase the best they had to offer.

    The only contestant I’m a little surprised to see in the top 10 is Haley. The judges gave her middling comments, and the fan reception I’ve seen of her has been mixed, but apparently, enough viewers liked her to vote her in! We’ll see how she does in the top 10. 😉

    *

    Watching the wild-card performances now!

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  11. Also, I also agree with Jennifer that with this group of contestants, even if two genuinely talented singers make it through, it’ll feel like the wrong decision no matter what because there are so many other singers we’d also like to include. It’s tough!

    MCL, I like Stefano as well! I’m actually surprised he didn’t make it as well, but five spots is such a low number, and the five men who did make it definitely connected with many fans.

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  12. Ooo, this is going to be tough. Only three girls and three guys are being asked to sing for Wild Card spots! Out of the girls, I have a strong leaning towards one of the three (although I’d be fine with either of two), but for the guys, I quite like two of three, particularly the third one to sing.

    (Sorry for vagueness. I don’t know how much people want to spoiled.) Now, there’s suspense! I wonder what’s going to happen…

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  13. Hi J: I liked the guys more than the gals. The first two guys are my favs. No spoilers here unless you want to be, readers? Tee hee. J – will touch base again with you soon. Early start tomorrow.

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  14. MCL,
    I also agree with you about Stefano. He is terrific!!!

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  15. Louise – very happy about Stefano but sad about the exclusion of Jovany. He should have been included in the Top 13. He certainly was better than the two females who who were selected and on par with Stefano.

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  16. Yes, MCL, Jovany was really good tonight.

    The only person I’m really sorry about is Lauren Turner. I was really hoping she would make it–I enjoyed her last night.

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  17. WOW! That was exciting! I was so happy for Stefano! They put up the three cuties and had to choose. I think they made the right choice. Jovany was very good, but I love the version of “Angel” that Anthony Fedorov sings. I must have heard it 100 times. Robbie is just such a sweetie and I am happy he got a chance to showcase his voice again. He is going to be very popular at school )more so than before).

    Steven see something in Naima that he likes. I am happy for her and can’t wait to see what she will wear next week. LOL!

    Where did Haley come from? It is for the best that Brett not be there. I don’t think Lauren Turners comment about being cut went over very well. This is a very strong line-up! Now, to the TOP 10 and visions of the tour. I wonder if two will be eliminated next week?

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  18. It’s a very strong top 13, though there are a couple of girls I would rather be replaced with others.

    Has anyone heard the farewell song from David? It’s a cover, but David’s voice…amazing!
    Adam Lambert is also coming back for a performance show on the 10th, singing Aftermath acoustic. I don’t know what happen with Lee though.

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  19. This was some real drama tonight! I was on pins and needles all throughout the wild card portion of the show. I really had a fondness for Robbie and hoped he would get picked by the judges. Stefano really put it all on the line tonight and sang his heart out. The guys were all better tonight than last night. Robbie lost the nerves and at least got the chance to have America hear his best.

    I think overall the top ten deserve to be there. I am with J about Haley. She is the one that surprised me. Her mannerisms when she sings really drive me crazy. I already had it all figured out in my head beforehand – four girls who had basically the same singing style – bluesy, soul, r&b. Kendra, Haley, Lauren Turner and Ashthon were all going to have to fight for a spot in the finals. I personally liked Lauren Turner and Kendra. I am not thrilled to see Ashthon in there, because I decided that I don’t love the tone of her voice. She sounds sharp or off key to me, but it’s more likely just that tone that doesn’t sit well with me. She has the performance skills, but I am just not that impressed.

    I do like the fact that Naime got a wild card. Tonight she sounded so much better and it shows just how much difference the right song makes. This is what she should have sung last night. I had a feeling she would not make the top ten, because she is different and competing with a lot of great voices. Now she will have her chance to show what she’s got. When she broke down at the end of her song, I had tears in my eyes. So much honest, real emotion with one last shot at making the finals.

    It was always going to be hard tonight and we all knew that some really talented people would go home. They couldn’t all get into the finals and that’s just the way it had to be.

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  20. I was afraid that too much was riding on one selection to get the best slate possible, but I’m excited about the results. Stefano was a great pick. I’m so glad that Robbie is leaving this show with a strong performance. If he had waited a couple of years, I’m sure he would have gone on. I loved Brett’s personality. I know that he’s going to leave this experience feeling good about himself.

    I was very pleased with the bonus slot going to Naima. Her voice and her personality are both growing on me. The only change I would have made would be to switch Haley and Lauren T.

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  21. Dearest Mindy,

    I liked Lauren Turner and Kendra as well. It’s a shame that Lauren didn’t even get a chance to perform again. Lauren has a great bluesy vibe. (Her upper register tended to be constricted, but I liked her tone and her style.)

    First of all, encouraging comments (in true MCL fashion!): I like Ashton’s personality and performance ability; she is spunky and confident without being cocky and has great stage presence. That said, on the basis of vocals, several other contestants would’ve made a better argument for that Wild Card spot.

    What you find off-putting about her tone is probably the lack of release. Her tone sounds purposely hollow, as though Ashton’s misguided strategy for power involves inadequate diaphragmatic support and activating muscles in the larynx that are not necessary for singing. In other words: Ashton sings with a lot of tension. Her vocal folds are doing too much work. It’s a shame because Ashton’s natural tone is lovely, but the tension detracts from her entire performance because it’s present on pretty much every note she sings and throughout her entire range. The result is that we never hear her sing without it.

    Also, to clarify, this strategy is misguided because the resulting sound is not as loud as a well-supported sound, nor is it as resonant. She could achieve the exact same vocal aesthetic (tone color, vibrato, etc.) in a far more efficient manner.

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  22. Over-all, I am happy with the top 13…I wish that Kendra and Robbie would have made it in, but I’m okay with everyone!

    Scotty is my # 1, so I hope each week he sings in his “lane”, I really don’t want him to change anything up, as Jennifer said to him “sing in your lane”, I don’t really want to hear anything pop from Scotty, he has a catalog of country artists to choose from!

    Paul being my #2, I have no worries about him, I think that he definitely knows who he is as an artist and will choose songs accordingly.

    Okay people…we got us a ballgame! So let the games begin!!! 🙂

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  23. Louise,

    That is an interesting article. I agree with many of the points made (and that’s true with several of the other top 13 rankings I’ve read), but I think the article also demonstrates how difficult it is to rank the contestants this year. There’s so much talent, and it’s so diverse that I find it hard to predict how far anyone will make it.

    For all we know, this competition might be decided week to week. I believe we need to see at least several performance shows before any front-runners (or duds, although I hope there aren’t any) emerge and break away from the pack. Some contestants are riding waves of momentum into the live shows, but it’s too early to call anything in my opinion.

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  24. Also, for the record, I want to clarify that although I agree with the reasoning, I don’t agree with the rankings, but I’m perfectly fine with them because I think it’s good to have room to move up. Even with her knockout performance, Pia is ranked in the low-middle of that list, but if that gives her a better chance of being a dark horse, so be it. I have high hopes for her!

    I think Pia will surprise people with her vocal ability and versatility. I’ve been waiting for a top 12/13 contestant like her since the end of season 6. It’s been a long while… 😉

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  25. Louise,

    Hmmm…not sure if I agree with the article, BUT, it does go to show that each person has their own likes and dislikes! LOL

    I want to totally enjoy this season, because I think there is so much talent this year! So while I have my favorites, I want to enjoy all of the kids and each of the unique talent that they bring this year!

    I must say I am a little perplexed with the idea that Scotty needs to expand his singing and become more versatile…? I love the deep baritone and hope he keeps it for as long as he is on the show! And it will be that voice and his genuine personality that will compel me, a non-country music fan, to purchase any CD he puts out!

    Again, I want to say, this is a great line-up of talent!

    I can’t wait to see and hear Adam on March 10…WooHoo!

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  26. Dearest J,

    Thank you once again for helping me to understand what I was hearing in Ashthon’s voice. That makes so much sense to me. Yes, in keeping with MCL’s credo of always finding something to like about a contestant, I do agree that her performance skills are amazing. However, as you know with me, the voice has to be there as well. I do hear things differently and you always patiently help me to understand the why of it. I wish I could say more than a heartfelt thank you, but I think you know the respect and admiration you hold in my heart.

    I don’t necessarily agree with the rankings in that article, but it’s all fine for now. For all I know we could rank them even! This could be the most competitive season ever. The top 13 are brimming with talent, there is diversity, something for everyone and it should be a real treat.

    I do agree with that article on how the absence of Simon is actually a good thing. I have been thinking this over for a few days now trying to get my thoughts together. I feel that Simon got too big for the show. He became another performer and everyone waited with bated breath for him to utter another sarcastic Simonism every week. He also seemed to have checked out for the last two seasons. His boredom was palpable. The camera would pan to him and he wouldn’t even be looking at the contestant, or he would be playing some silly games with Paula or Kara.

    I think the balance and focus has been restored this season. I think that if the judges are doing their job, then you don’t really notice them. The producers seem to have remembered that it’s about these young people. They make the show. I am impressed with the judging so far. The critiques have been brief and to the point and there has been none of the grossly insulting and demeaning comments we heard last season. When the cameras pan over to them, we see that they are focused on the contestants, their full attention is on the performance, no gossiping and joking, no looking elsewhere. I have been really surprised by Jennifer. I did not think that she would be so generous and invested in this process. Also, Steven Tyler provides some unexpected humor and real honesty. The guy knows what he is talking about. Randy’s role has changed now that he is the senior member of the group. He has been much more articulate and expansive in his thoughts. No more relying on cliches and little catch phrases! I always thought he had more in him, but with Simon there maybe he just didn’t have the opportunity to play a more significant role.

    The three judge format is so welcome. So now we can relax, sit back and put all the attention on this group of talented young singers. It will be all about them and I cannot wait.

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  27. Unfortunately, I still feel that this format was MUCH too unfair to the contestants and the viewers: Robbie was special and I would have loved to HEAR more from him. I will miss his smile.

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  28. Excellent comments about the change in judges, Mindy. I find it interesting when the camera sometimes pans to the judges to see their expressions that they really are paying attention. I don’t think they could have done that with Simon on the judging panel because he seemed so disinterested. I have to admit to not having much respect for JLo before she started judging Idol, but I’ve now changed my mind about her. Although I think she will need to give better critiques when the competition moves along, for now I’ve appreciated her support for the contestants.

    In reference to the article that I linked to above with the rankings, I thought it was interesting but I agree with the poster who said it’s much too early to rank anyone. I like so many of the contestants at this point that I have no idea who my favorites are or who the frontrunners might be. From past experience as a viewer, I know that some times frontrunners can fade quickly and disappoint. But I think this is going to be a VERY enjoyable season.

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  29. James,

    Please be assured that I agree with you about this format being unfair. Unfortunately as I have learned as I have matured, life is unfair. I do think that this was a strategic move on the part of the producers this season. Of course, I don’t know for sure what is in their minds, but I had the thought that this might be designed to motivate the viewers to become invested early in the season by making this kind of a one-shot deal. If you want your favorites to get into the finals, then be sure to vote now.

    I also believe that the wild card portion of the show was designed for maximum drama and suspense. It did not come off as contrived, as so many of the gimmicks have in the past on this show. It was live, the stakes were as high as possible and a few who didn’t make it into the finals with the popular vote, would now have another chance. I had hope when Robbie was chosen as one of the three guys to sing for a wild card spot. Believe me, I was urging him on and telling him to stay calm and just go out there and do his best. In the end, we did get to see the real Robbie and that’s all you can ask from this young man. He did his best, showed that magnificent emotion and that trembling heartbreak in his voice and I could not have been prouder of him.

    I was hoping that the judges would pick two of the guys and only one girl. I was not happy with Ashthon getting a wild card. I thought that should have gone to Robbie. Stefano really impressed me by stepping it up and leaving his heart and soul out there on the stage. I did not think he was that great until I heard him sing with so much passion. I am sad that Robbie didn’t make it, but it’s wonderful that he left on a high note. You could hear the audience reaction to his performance. We will have to be content with that.

    This format is a do-or-die kind of thing. You must pick the right song and then go out there and sing as if your life depended on it. I do think that, for the most part, America did a good job. Haley is the only one that I did not think deserved to be in the finals. The viewers listened and rewarded those who performed the best. This is an unbelievably talented group of people and it was always going to be tough to get to the top 12 or 13. Robbie got a bad case of nerves on performance night and it cost him in this competitive field of singers.

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  30. Louise,

    I felt the same way you did regarding Jennifer. To be honest, I was not a fan. However, I must say that I have been pleasantly surprised to see her giving some real effort and enthusiasm as a judge. She seems to have left her ego at the door. No diva behavior so far. Good for her!

    I also think you make a great point about Jennifer having to step it up now with her critiques. Sometimes she can seem a big generic, but I assume that it’s part of the process of getting into the role of a judge. She did interrupt Randy when he was giving his opinion and it would be nice if she would let him finish and then state her disagreement. She hasn’t been all that specific, but I expect that to change. I also haven’t really heard her be negative or critical. I certainly don’t want her to morph into Kara, God forbid, but I do think she will need to try to provide some constructive criticism. That is what I am looking for this season. I like the brevity of the comments from the judges. Less is more. However, I also want them to try to include some snippets of wisdom, some brief suggestions on how the contestants can improve, what they might work on, etc.

    I am really happy that I don’t have one favorite right now. It allows me to keep an open mind and give these contestants a chance to win me over. I think it’s going to be tough for James Durbin to win me over. I don’t see any similarity between him and Adam. Some Adam fans seem to be upset over the comparison. They are completely different singers. Not everyone who can hit the power falsetto notes needs to be labeled as another Adam. That’s not fair to Adam or them. If James can show me more than just Judas Priest 80’s heavy metal, then I am more than willing to listen.

    There are a few whose performance mannerisms are going to drive me batty. That kind of thing usually doesn’t work for me. I am happy to see someone like Naima in the competition. I love her presence on stage and find her captivating to watch. I love Donny Hathaway and that song really gave her a chance to show off her vocals. It was so much better than her version of Summertime, which just didn’t work for me at all.

    I think the wild card performances were some of the most riveting, magnificent performances I have seen. To be able to bring your best when the pressure is at its greatest, shows class and guts and heart. I was proud of all of them.

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  31. Sorry, there was a typo in my previous post in the second paragraph saying that sometimes Jennifer can be a BIT too generic!

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  32. Oh, Mindy, I know just how you feel when I read back a post and discover that I’ve mistyped or omitted a word! I wish we had a way to edit our posts. I just wanted to tell you how much I’ve enjoyed reading your posts and well as those of everyone else here. This is going to be an amazing season.

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  33. Mindy . . .

    I agree with you:) In the past[when there was the gradual elimination], Robbie would have been more used to the stage and he would have placed high in the finals. Another reason that I am still FUMED about this format also concerns the song selection.

    It is possible that–by the time it got to Robbie–he had NO choice BUT to sing that Sarah McClathlan song. His original choice may have been taken/unavailable Plus, I thought the contestants were SUPPOSSOSED to–per Ryan–have the opportunity to sing ORIGINAL songs.

    What still rankles is all the HIGH PRAISE they gave Robbie for his Hollywood and Las Vegas rounds[remember, Scott actualy FORGOT the lyrics to a song; plus the whole Jaycee mess]. All I remember is the smooth moves and style of Robbie[plus the wonderful singing].

    And that would beg the obvious question: Mssrs Tyler and Jackson plus Ms. Lopez: Since you all–apparently–LOVED his WC perf and STRONGLY complemented hin, why did you award Ashthon–instead of Robbie–that WC spot?

    I have seen –unverified–reports that the AI honchos may have had a role in wanting ‘balance’ in the finalists, IOW BF vs WM. And I do agree that she had absolutely NO stage presence and her vocals were lacking.

    If true, than it is a PC popularity contest and no longer a singing contest.

    Finally, I could see that–even when he was waiting his turn to audition–he really wanted this and I could see that passion in his eyes, face and body. I never had that feeling with ANY of the others. And when he sang . . . Had I been one of the judges, Robbie would have an AUTOMATIC spot in the finals.

    When he was sent back, I could see the hurt and pain starting to build in Robbie. And when he sang his final song, I could also see tears running down his face. All I could think about was the basic unfairness of this BRUTAL and UNNECESSARY elimination process!

    IOW, this young man with the grace, elegance, bearing and presence that I loved had just been robbed of his rightful spot in the final and the chance to watch him grow as a performer[like Tim Urban, I think he would have ‘changed things up’ and pleasantly surprised us:)]

    In closing, thanks to certain questionable actions, I AM FINISHED WATCHING THIS SEASON OF AI!

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  34. Having missed the girls and final, I watched them on You Tube, but didn’t get to see all the final – where they sing for the wild card. I was surprised to see just 6 to choose from – why wasn’t Lauren Turner there – she was praised very highly by the judges. I was happy with Stefano and Naima being chosen but surprised by the other – Ashton.

    I am Ok with the final 13 – most gutted over Tim – but as he didn’t perform – that’s the name of the game. I was sorry for Jordan – wish we could know what led up to his choice – although he has been painted as a villain – he was very supportive to Clint who looked like he was about to faint when they were waiting for the decision.

    Judges – I am disappointed with their critiques – they just aren’t there – J-lo & Steve like every one – so Randy had to be harsher than maybe he should to make up for it. However Randy was quite specific sometime which was good – however I wish they would stop comparing them to stars – they are supposed to be their own person. I would like to see some really critiques on how it was sung, what was wrong – not just that was the wrong song – but why was it the wrong song, what would have been better (from the limited selection they have to choose from)

    Song choice – I would like to see the list of songs that the contestants are allowed to pick from.

    Back to my top 3’s (you will notice I am not a lover of belters)
    Girls
    Tia – I love the tone of her voice, it is very sweet and she has good control and power. She gave (to me) the most memorable and emotional song of the girls.
    Karen – She also has a sweet tone and a sweet face. She pulled me into her song (and I did like the spanish)
    Pia – I’ve lost Julie, but Pia took her place in my affections – with her controlled delivery – for soft to powerful – amazing.
    Boys
    Scotty – Just love his voice and he really sang and told a story that keep me interested. Not a country person, so hoping there will be enough variety in his performances whilst keeping “in his lane”
    Casey – Just love the way he is so versatile and musical and it comes out in his singing. I just want him to trim his hair and beard.
    Stefano – (lost Tim boo hoo) but I loved the tone of Stefano’s voice – it was beautiful.

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  35. I am surprised that no one is mentioning Jovany. He sang his heart out during the WC round and it was pure magic. I would have chosen him over one of the femlae singers. He is excellent.

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  36. I’m happy with the final 13. Although I did not like how quickly they narrowed it down, I am glad because, personally, I found the other way just seemed to drag and I began to lose interest until the final were chosen. I find this way keeps the viewers entertained and tuned in a bit more.

    But I do think in doing it this way, AI may have lost some talented individuals who were maybe sent home a bit too early because they didn’t a chance to show us what they truly have.

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  37. What I like about the new format this year is the idea that we were filling up the slate of those who would move on. I like that we directly picked the top five guys and the five girls rather than going through weeks of elimination rounds. However, I would have appreciated another week of voting in which we, the voters, would be able to select among those who didn’t make the initial cut. Then ALL of those left out of the initial selection could perform one more time. Then the process would be fairer to all contestants (including, for example, Lauren T. who didn’t get another opportunity to sing) and would more truly reflect the voters’ wishes (which would address James’ concerns).

    I would probably then have Week 1 to choose the top 4 guys and the top 4 girls and Week 2 to choose 2 additional guys and 2 additional girls. If the producers wanted a judges’ wildcard, it could be to add a 13th contestant.

    James, I truly understand your frustration about Robbie. I voted for him too. However, I hope that you’ll continue to enjoy the show and to participate in the discussions here.

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  38. James,

    I meant to respond to you last night, but I was tired and went to sleep. I sense a lot of hurt and pain in your comments and, as someone who has felt the same way I just wanted to reach out and say a few things to you.

    I have mixed feelings about this one-shot process of elimination. I really don’t know why the producers decided to change it. I gave a few thoughts about why they might have done it, but in truth, I really don’t know what their reasons were for doing it in this manner. I hope that I didn’t sound patronizing when I told you that life is unfair. I was just trying to help you process the disappointment. This show has tested my patience and infuriated me at times. I have seen too many great singers lose out over all the seasons that I have been watching. I have come to accept that there will be times when my favorite, a deserving and incredibly talented singer, will not win or get into the finals. I could list the names of all the singers that didn’t get their due on this show.

    There is an old saying that I like to quote at times like this – everything happens for a reason. Robbie did get a chance to sing again. He showed America why he got into the top 24. He gave it his best effort. The audience loved him. Maybe somebody out there was watching and will provide him with another opportunity. Maybe he will take a different path in his singing career. I know that his family and friends at school will be proud of him and shower him with love. Idol isn’t the only path to a singing career. Just have faith that he is young and could have other opportunities. Idol is a wonderful showcase for talent. It’s up to you, but I would hope that you continue watching. This is a diverse group of talented singers and you might find yourself really liking some of them.

    MCL,

    You are right that we have ignored poor Jovani. This young man sang his heart out and gave it everything. It was a bravura performance that gave us a chance to really hear his great voice. When Jennifer told him that he did the best he could, you could kind of see the air go out of him. He looked so disappointed in that moment. I think he sensed that he would not get a wild card. For some of us who loved Robbie so much, we have forgotten that this young man also sang his young heart out and beautifully. There has been a lot of buzz online about how these six contestants gave some of the best pure singing performances as they tried to get a wild card spot in the finals.

    I don’t know which is easier – being cut outright and not getting another chance, or having the judges pick you for another shot and then being disappointed yet again. It’s hard watching these young people experience such disappointment after having come so far.

    I do agree that there should have been two men and one woman. That was my feeling after listening to all of them. The guys seemed to step up and shine so brilliantly. I still feel bad that Lauren Turner didn’t get another chance to sing. There is a lot of room for disappointment. We always knew it would be this way with all the talent. Tim is another one who had such a great voice but just didn’t manage to bring it on the night when he needed it the most. We could go down the list of the ones who didn’t make it and had the talent to be there. It is what it is.

    Sue,

    Thanks for your kind words. I really do have to proofread these posts before I post them!

    Barbara,

    Some of your comments about the judges are fair and thoughtful. I think they will definitely need to step it up, but this is a good beginning. At least we haven’t had to listen to some of the dreadful attacks that we heard last season. It should never be personal. Steven and Jennifer are the new kids on the block and it’s a learning process. I agree that Jennifer hasn’t really been critical thus far. It is true that Randy has had to assume the role of the voice of reality. He tries to do it in a more gentle way, but is still honest and keeping it real without the silly, repetitious catch phrases he used in the past.

    I expect that next week we will see the judges expect more from these contestants. This is a formidable group and there is no obvious favorite at this point. It’s anyone’s to win now and that is an exciting prospect.

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  39. “It’s anyone’s to win now and that is an exciting prospect.”

    Mindy…I love this comment, because it is so true! I think the week to week voting will be so competitive, it will be extremely stressful on the kids, but so entertaining for the viewers!

    I think you are right, where we stand right now it is any one’s to win and any one’s to lose! Song Choice, will be so important!

    I’m really loving this year! The judges are great; the talent is over the top great!

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  40. Jessica Turner March 5, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    I have not gotten a chance to see about half the men and half the girls and none of the sing off. I just want to say that I love Casey Abrams. He has Chutzpah! He may not be gifted with the most beautiful pure voices in the world, but his phrasing, musicality (what would you call a sense of “interval relations”?), ability to surprise, stage presence, etc. will take him a long way in the music world. Certainly one doesn’t need a pure singing voice to success in the rock-pop world. Look at Louis Armstrong, Randy Newman, Rod Stewart, George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Bono, Michael Stipe, Tom Waits etc. I can’t wait to see what he brings every week. In that way he reminds me of David Cook and Adam Lambert.

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  41. Jessica Turner March 5, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    I think this is very sad, but realistic. What size is the girl? An 8 or 10? The contestants were asked what they needed to improve on:

    Lauren Alaina: I’m trying to lose some weight. I’m not going get anorexic because I’m from the South and we’re just not built that way, but the harsh reality of the business is that I probably need to lose some to compete with all these other sexy beautiful girls. But I think as long as I am happy with the way I look, people will respect it. But this is also a very physical competition, with singing and dancing and making commercials and going on tour, so I think a few less pounds might improve all those things for me.

    From press conference published on ew.com.

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  42. Mindy . . .

    Pain and hurt? Nah:) I have LONG had issues with how AI conducts its business and how talent can sometimes be overlooked. Imagine how Robbie–and also Jovann–must have felt being pushed aside so that–allegedly–PC quotas could be met.

    For all his so-called’ faults’, Simon Cowell KNOWS talent when he sees it and–were he still an AI judge–Robbie[also Jovani] would have been a finalist. Simon might have also sent Scott packing for forgetting the words to a song and the ‘Jacee’ affair.

    Imagine how Robbie must have felt that night when he was told by the judges that he was brilliant, had no idea of his talent and the next moment–when the rubber hit the road–being cast aside for the sake of ‘diversity’. Funny, I thought this was SUPPOSED to be a singing competiton.

    I am also an AI board member: Several posters–I will assume they are ‘on-the-level’ concerning their entertainment biz experience–who felt that the judges were both biased and unprofessional in who they passed into the finals. They all felt that Robbie–with his undeniable talent, presence and charisma–should have been given a spot.

    LIke me, they would also like an explanation for the decision to exclude Robbie.

    Too bad that both Robbie and Jovani had their dreams brought to a screeching halt.

    Hence, why I will be REFRAINING from watching any more of AI this season.

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  43. I went to rewatch Robbies perf this past Tuesday and carefully peruse the judge’s comments. Robbie was adoarable and I–plus the audience and two of the judges–loved hearing him talk about making that song his own.

    IMO, Randy–by engaging his mouth w/o listening carefully to the comments of J Lo–cost Robbie his spot in the Top Ten. J Lo said she liked how he made the song his own–even mentioned that some of the notes were imperfect–loved watching his reaction:)–and also mentioned how he deeply touches people with his ability to tell a story.

    Randy–almost being tone- and ear-deaf–bascially criticizes the ‘notes’ and says almost NOTHING about the quality of his vocals.

    This–IMO–likely cost Robbie a Top Ten spot.

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  44. I just read Annie Barrett’s review of the wild card picks on ew.com and she said that Robbie deserved the wild card over Ashthon! She sees it the same way. That one will haunt me for a while. Honestly either Jovani or Robbie deserved it over Ashthon. She also criticized Ashthon’s performance of And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going. I am in complete agreement with her. Jennifer Hudson has such a powerful, rich voice that was well suited to this song. I even thought back to Lakisha’s amazing rendition of this song a few seasons back. It was the season when Jordin Sparks won and my beloved Melinda Doolittle didn’t even make it into the finale. How well I remember that one!

    Vonnie,

    You are a sweet soul. I am actually glad that I don’t have one favorite, because now I can just watch the show next week and let all these talented young people do their thing. As I said, a few will have a time trying to win me over, but I will give them all a fair shot. I hope that Pia’s truly brilliant performance won’t put her under more pressure to try to live up to higher expectations. How do you top that? I love all the different genres of music that are represented, the diversity of styles. There truly is something for everyone.

    And, Vonnie just for you – I cannot wait to see Adam come back next week and raise the roof! He will show these young people how it’s done!

    James,

    I don’t know that I agree with you about this whole PC thing. I just believe that it was a hard decision for the judges. I can live with Stefano and Naima, but Ashthon was a disappointment. I am not going to characterize their decision to include her at this point. I have also had issues with this show and have seen many of my favorites not make it. However, this time I just think there was so much depth in this talent pool of singers, that inevitably a few good people were going to be sent home. They can’t put them all through and we are not in their position. That is one time when I don’t envy being a judge.

    I don’t necessarily agree that if Simon were still there, then Robbie and Jovani would have been in the finals. Simon knows talent of a certain kind, but he also has his own biases. He’s not perfect by any means. There were plenty of people who didn’t get through even on his watch. Honestly, I don’t know that I have forgiven him for the way he treated Siobhan. I remember that interview she gave after she was voted off, in which she confessed that she had to make a point of not looking at the judges when she was performing, because she could see the disapproval and negativity on their faces. That’s inexcusable as far as I am concerned.

    Simon had his blind spots and wasn’t infallible. I don’t know that he would have made sure that Robbie and Jovani made it through. He became a negative presence because he had already checked out for the last two seasons. Imagine how a singer felt if they chanced to look at him while they were performing, only to see him looking elsewhere or chatting and joking with Paula or Kara. I sure don’t miss him.

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  45. I like Karen, but I think she is making a mistake in the way she has been highlighting her ethnicity: “Latinos are back in the game! We’re here! I’m representing!” she said.

    I don’t think anyone is bothered by her singing in Spanish, but making a big “issue” of being Latino will not sit well with some people. Some people will see this as playing the “race card,” appearing as if she is asking “her people” to vote for her because she is Latino, with the implication that if you don’t vote for her you are being anti-Latino or racist.

    I have always admired how African American contestants on Idol never make an “issue” out of being black. Unlike Karen, they never say they are on Idol “representing” their race. This kind of thing has become standard practice among politicians trying to cater to ethnic voters, but I don’t think Idol viewers want contestants “campaigning” for votes on the basis of their race or ethnicity.

    If Karen keeps up this “I’m a Latino, so vote for me” thing, she might turn off a lot of people.

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  46. Malden – I totally agree. My husband barely watches Idol, so he has no affiliation with any of the singers, but when he heard her comment he said: “Worst thing she could ever say”.

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  47. James – The more I think about the results show, the more I agree with your assessment. Robbie should have gotten the wild card. I voted for him as well.

    MCL – About Jovani, I think he failed to connect with the viewing audience in terms of personality and charisma. Of course that had something to do with editing, but all I could really recall of him was that he ripped out his shirt during the auditions. And that didn’t really impress me very much. Of course, this is a singing competition, but I need a bit more connection with a contestant to be motivated enough to vote for him or her.

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  48. My perception of the wild card finale is that each judge selected their 2 favorites and from their 2 favorites, they each selected one. I think that’s why JLo said what she said to Jovany, who I agree with the other posters here, had a gorgeous voice — as did Robbie. The thing about Jovany and Robbie is that AI is not the end of the road for them. They are both young and can still pursue a career in singing which is what I hope they will do. The world needs more beautiful voices.

    Simon was always basically looking for a singer he could make $$ with, the flavor of the day, and I don’t think Robbie or Jovany would’ve been his choices. Simon would’ve been looking for another Justin Bieber or a female contestant he could mold a la Leona Lewis.

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  49. Sue . . .

    Well, at least we know Jovani has nice pecs:) Though I would be CURIOUS to see what his legs looked like. IMO, If the original original elimaintion format hd been used this year, Jovani and Robbie would have made it to the Top Ten.

    That is one reason AI has lost its crdibility with me and I will be doing OTHER things on Wednesday and Thursday nights. AI has–with quite a few of us[including some with biz experience]–lost its credibility for both this BONEHEADED and UNNECESSARY elimintaion process and for the ‘heavyhanded’ way that Robbie was sent home.

    Mindy . . .

    You are right:) I ahd forgotten about how TOTALLY unprofessional and distracted Simon could be when the contestants performed. Although I would have used ‘positive reenforcement’ to get Ms. Magnus to eliminate the screaming.

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  50. I was surprised when the judges selected Ashthon to be a wild card because I didn’t think her singing was great (remember LaKeisha?), however, her performance skills on stage seem really polished. So I just assumed this was the reason she was selected. I’m not a fan and won’t be at all surprised if she is eliminated early in the competition, but I don’t think she was selected just for PC reasons.

    As for Jovany and Robbie, they were both good, but of the two of them I much preferred Jovany. I was not at all disappointed that Robbie wasn’t selected. He has a very nice voice, but his tendency to change the melody and to do too many runs turned me off. Any other year, Jovany and Robbie would have made it to the top 12 (13), but this year there are people who are better and more unique.

    And whoever mentioned Karen stressing her ethnicity is absolutely correct. As soon as she sang in Spanish, I told my husband that she wouldn’t make it. But then when JLo praised her for doing it, I figured that it might not matter. And she did make it. I just think that a majority of the people who vote are more inclined not to vote for certain ethnic groups. Sad–but from watching previous seasons– it seems to be true.

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  51. I was wondering which contestants the AI execs were favoring – even though I was convinced that what was going on at the judges table during Wild Card was “spontaneous” (there was nothing scripted about the judges behavior).

    Earlier today (on Twitter) someone accused executive producer Nigel Lythgoe of fixing/manipulating the results. In the middle of his debunking these claims someone else said “Right, no manipulation going on AT ALL. Did all your favs make the Top 13?”

    Nigel’s response? “UNFORTUNATELY NOT. LAUREN & KENDRA”. I really would have loved to see those 2 ladies go through too.

    So there you have it. On the original Topic Nigel said that they taped the first 2 performance shows in advance (in front of a live audience) because they have a NEW DIRECTOR(!) and the new judges. They will be taping this weeks top13 performance show in advance (in front of a live audience), and after this they will all be broadcast live. Nigel also said that Jovoney sang his top 12 men’s song a second time because of a microphone malfunction. The alternative… no one in America would have heard him sing.

    The banter ended with Nigel saying “Sorry I can’t play anymore I have to go to work. There’s manipulating to be done. xox.”

    Who needs fictional drama when we have Idol and the INTERNET!

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  52. ladyhelix. . .

    Assuming this is verified, I DO believe that Robbie–and the others–are owed an apology. Also, why was the semifinal show taped. instead of live, as is the usual case. When I looke at that Top 13 pic, I feel absolutely NOTHING from these people in terms of stage presence.

    I wonder how Mr. Rosen must feel. He may feel that he was ‘played’ for ratings yuks. Naturally, when one is ‘adjusting’ the results to ensure the proper ‘balance’ and ‘diversity’, one must NEVER get too greedy: Tends to be bad for business:)

    As I have stated in earlier posts, something seems ‘off’ concerning how Robbie[plus Jovani] were denied WC spots in favor of less-qualified people.

    So, Brother Man Nigel, please explain to me why Robbie Rosen was unqualified to be a finalist? Maybe all his class, grace, elegance and bearing was just TOO much for the show. I thought this was supposed to be a ‘singing’ competiton instead of a ‘popularity’ contest.

    How SILLY of me:) Oh well, AI continues to lose credibility and shows why it is in SERIOUS need of adult supervision.

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  53. I can see that a few people are bothered by the eliminations as their fave has not gone through. I am in that situation as I loved Tim and would have loved to see him get another chance to sing for us and warm up. However the semis are not much different from the previous rounds where large numbers of people were cut – every time the signers knew it was the last chance.
    The issue with the semi-finals is that many sang really well and got there place automatically by the voting public – I don’t think many people disagree with the way the public voted the final 10 in (perhapsHaley) – just the wild cards.
    Tim and Robbie just did not sing as well as the others on the night when it mattered – if they had they would have been in the top 10.
    For the wildcards – I agree with NatashaM – I think the judges choose their favourite from those left – which seems to me to be a reasonable method, given the public had already chosen their faves.

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  54. Ladyhelix,

    Thanks for sharing Nigel’s comments. I would have loved for Lauren T. to have gotten another chance to perform in the wild card round. The pool of talent this year is indeed large.

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  55. James,

    The semifinals round was taped in advance to make sure the episodes did not run overtime. The producers did not hide this. If you recall, last year, the producers had a lot of difficulty keeping the episodes within the allotted time frame because the judges were too wordy in their critiques. The episodes became “bloated” as some call it.

    Also, the semifinals rounds were only live for the past two seasons; prior to that, for seasons 1-7, the semifinals were always taped. (In season 1, the top 32 semifinalists were taped and didn’t even have a full band, a big stage, or a studio audience!) As I mentioned before, this is to ensure that episodes fit within the time constraints, and considering that for seven seasons, the semifinals were taped, the producers decided to revert to that.

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  56. These kids signed up to compete against hundreds of thousands of others in a contest that only ONE can win. Everyone else “goes home” – even Adam Lambert.

    The people who went home last week were the people America did not VOTE for as often. It’s really as simple as that. America had the chance to keep Robbie, Lauren, Tim, Kendra and the others “SAFE” and away from the Wild Card round, but America chose not to. What’s done is done. Not everone in America has the same musical sensability – but it’s called “AMERICAN IDOL”.

    I hope you find your solace but no one is going to apologize. Whenever you enter a competition there is always a chance that you won’t win – but that doesn’t mean that you lose. Millions and millions of people now know WHO Robbie is and how WONDERFUL he is as a musician and a man. He (and you) should be focusing on what is possible going forward, rather than leaving people thinking of “sour grapes” whenever they hear his name mentioned.

    I personally would prefer to remember Robbie redeeming himself with his wild card performance and the class and grace he displayed when he learned he was not going to move on. I’m sure that’s how he would want us to remember him too. Robbie knew better than anyone what his odds were…. and he did exceptionally well.

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  57. Well said, ladyhelix, especially this part:

    “it’s called “AMERICAN IDOL”

    After much consideration, and even though I lost my overall favorite plus the most entertaining woman in the lineup in one cut, I like the deep cut format. I think it will help to eliminate the Sanjia effect, which is the most frustrating form of elimination in the contest. One additional level could be added in the future to refine it a bit, but overall, I think it’s a good thing.

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  58. Gene,

    I am interested in your latest comment. Also, good to see you here again! What did you mean by eliminating the “Sanjaya” effect? We all know what an embarrassment that was when this young man stayed on far too long. I would be interested to hear you expand a little on your thoughts.

    ladyhelix,

    I am in agreement with you regarding Robbie. That is how I choose to look at his situation. If he had not done his best again, then I would have felt terrible. However, he stepped up and showed everybody how good he is and that’s all anyone can ask. If you do your best, then at least you can go home knowing that you left it all out there. You are right that if Robbie and the others did their best on performance night, then they might well have been voted into the top ten by America. As it is, I am grateful that the judges thought enough of Robbie to ask him to sing again.

    I honestly believe that they judges had a very difficult job in selecting the wild card contestants. If they picked their own favorites, then that’s their prerogative. I think America did a great job with this talented group and my only issue is Haley. I do not think she was good enough to get into the top ten, but America voted and made their decision. I have seen much worse with this show in the past. At least this time we know that this was a competitive group of singers. Those who brought their best were rewarded and then there were six who were given another chance.

    Dearest J,

    Thanks for clarifying the issue of taped performances. I don’t see any conspiracy here or any hidden agenda. It’s a precautionary measure that has been used in the past, as you indicated. I am reading some comments about vocal enhancements on a few blog sites online. I have no idea what that’s all about, but it appears that some people are claiming that the taping was done to help certain singers. I think it’s unfortunate that some want to create controversy where it does not exist.

    I am confident that Robbie and Jovani will focus on the future and be grateful that they had this opportunity to get national exposure. Robbie is just 17 and has his whole life ahead of him. He may find other avenues in which he can pursue his career as a singer. He blessed us all with his sweet soul and lovely voice and I will cherish it.

    There is an old saying that I love – it’s better to light a candle than curse the darkness. It helps me get through disappointments in life.

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  59. Hi Mindy,
    Actually, I minimized my response on purpose, but I’m happy to expand on it for you.
    What I’m calling the Sanjaya effect is in no way limited to him, but he makes a good example. It’s where week after week we are treated to good performances by true contenders only to see them cut and the “Sanjaya” stay on yet another week. It’s heartbreaking week after week.

    I think the large cut, at a point in the season when there are one or two good performers remaining above the cutoff point tends to focus the voters attention on the very best of the best. They have little extra time or energy to play around voting for the cute guy or the clown etc. To the contrary, under some of the slower field reduction methods, used in the past, the voter tends to focus on their favorite, or top two, assuming other voters will keep their lesser choices in the competition. There is far less likelihood of someone you like being cut THIS week under the old system, so you can afford to cast a few votes for the class clown.

    There are also those who intentionally vote for who they perceive to be the worst. When the field is this large and many contestants have received little exposure, it is much more difficult to focus on one individual as the worst, so that energy is dispersed.

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  60. Gene,

    That’s a very interesting perspective. I had not thought of it like that. I know you are trying for brevity, but look at me! I am one of the worst offenders. When I start posting my thoughts, it’s almost as though I am thinking out loud, so I keep on going and going!

    I would like to think that you are on to something with this new system of cutting all the singers at once to get to the final top 10 or 11 or 12 or 13. If it does lessen the so-called “Sanjaya” effect, then it will be worth some of the heartache of losing a few really talented singers.

    In this field, I don’t think we will have any Sanjayas! The only one I really did not think belonged in the top 10 was Haley, but America saw it differently. I would have loved to see either Kendra or Lauren Turner get into the final group and, of course, Robbie. However, there will always be some disappointment. I still feel excited about these young people. I cannot wait to see them sing this week!

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  61. Mindy,

    I was looking for a positive side to the new system, it’s the MCL way you know, when I saw the light. It came to me like a vision, Sanjaya in a beam of white…

    You’re not an offender Mindy, I could listen to you rattle on for hours. (Gotcha!)

    One last word on Kendra. She has at least 5 “radio ready” studio recordings, posted on her various websites, of original songs that she wrote and performed. They are very good IMHO. The strange thing about them is that they are nor for sale. It’s very common today for new artist to release an EP with two to five songs on it, you even see them on iTunes, but here she is, at the peak of her fame, with marketable product, but it’s not for sale. Hmmm.

    You mentioned Melinda Doolittle earlier. She may well be my favorite singer to come from American Idol. I hope you have her CD. I bought it when it first came out and have been very pleased with it. She even does a few Robert Johnson songs!

    There were a few other disappointing cuts this season, before the point when you began to watch. Most notably for me was Miss Emily Anne Reed. Her style was thirties jazz with maybe a twist of swing. Not what Idol was looking for but another young artist to follow on the web. She is well represented on the net, at You Tube, her own site, and her bands site. Her first offering was sold out before Idol and she a new album coming soon. Some of her videos are very well done. Check her out if that style interest you.

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